WARNING:
Kayaking in Discovery Passage could be fatal for the inexperienced.
This document is for kayakers who already have training and experience.
A kayak with bulkheads, hatches, and sprayskirt is obligatory, as is the wearing of a PFD.
HIGHLIGHTS:
Orca in Seymour Narrows - photo by Jos Krynen of Eagle Eye Adventures | Cape Mudge Lighthouse |
© Alan Dunham 2018
Version 1.1 - Apr 12 2020
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LAND PREP
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ON THE WATER
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CAUTION & DANGER
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NOTES:
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map of Discovery Passage with layers: launch points, locations, hazards, training -click the icon at top left to add or subtract layers -click the map once to set keyboard focus -double click to zoom in (or use ctrl +) -use ctrl - to zoom out -or use ctrl & mouse wheel to zoom in/out -drag map to move center -hold arrow keys for a slow scroll -press page up, page down, home, end to quickly move the center |
Chart 3539 |
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Chart 3539 Discovery Passage Chart 3540 Campbell River -click to open a zoomable chart in a new tab -then click once to zoom in -click twice to zoom out -or use mouse wheel to zoom in/out |
Extract from Chart #1
Rocks, Wrecks, Obstructions
Chart #1 as pdf
Chart #1 as html
Ship Locations & Tracks |
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Ship Locations & Tracks -click to open the map in a new tab -then double click to zoom in -or use mouse wheel to zoom in/out -drag map to move center -hold arrow keys for a slow scroll -press page up, page down, home, end to quickly move the center |
The tidal currents near Campbell River run up to 7 knots. This is twice as fast as normal paddle speed.
flood current is indicated by the arrow with fletching
ebb current is indicated by the plain arrow
Trips along shore can
Crossings are affected by the current; you can
North-south trips take advantage of the current!
Slack current does not occur at High and Low Tide.
Tide info is helpful, but you absolutely need current info.
When planning a trip in south Discovery Passage, the first thing to do is to look at the Orange Pt current.
For May 16th, one could kayak north with the ebb, have lunch, and then kayak south with the flood.
For May 20th, a clockwise trip around Gowlland Island would be a good choice.
For May 23rd, one could kayak south with the flood, have lunch, and then kayak north with the ebb.
For May 26th, a counter-clockwise trip around Gowlland Island would be a good choice.
other online resources:
Seymour Narrows Current - Tables, Graph, Text (PST only)
Seymour Narrows Current - Graph (PST/PDT)
Campbell River Tide - Tables, Graph, Text (PST/PDT)
Campbell River Tide - Graph (PST/PDT)
Kayaking with Tides - Learn the basics
Kayaking: Understanding the Currents and Tides
Kayaking in Tidal Streams
There are local marine forecasts for Johnstone Strait and Strait of Georgia North.
Both of these regions have spots that are often windier than Discovery Passage. Thus local conditions may be much milder than the forecast.
There are other sources that are more detailed. See paltec for more details.
Forecasts for the city of Campbell River are based on the airport, which is 4 kilometers inland.
SpotWx, Windy.com, and Sailflow give good detailed forecasts
Visaweb is an Environment Canada interface to a detailed local forecast. It is not always available. See paltec for more information.
Forecasts:
Observations:
Fog along the west coast of VI - GOES WEST Satellite image
Fog along the west coast of VI - GOES WEST Satellite image
Low Pressure over Haida Gwaii - earth.nullschool
Low Pressure over Haida Gwaii - earth.nullschool
an example of surface analysis from DND Comox (I added some color)
an example of surface analysis from DND Comox (I added some color)
an example of surface analysis from NOAA (image cropped)
an example of surface analysis from NOAA (image cropped)
alyak.ca wind map observations during a calm day May 12 2018 | alyak.ca wind map observations during a SouthEasterly Feb 28 2018 |
alyak.ca wind map observations during a calm day May 12 2018 | alyak.ca wind map observations during a SouthEasterly Feb 28 2018 |
Marine Weather Guide
Environment Canada transmits a Marine Weather Forecast from various locations, using VHF channels
WX1=39B WX2=36B WX3=97B WX4=96B WX7=98B WX8=21B.
A proper sea kayak:
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  • Elk Bay   • Browns Bay   • Menzies Bay A   • Menzies Bay B   • Gowlland Harbour north   • April Pt marina   • Orange Pt   • Tyee Spit   • Quathiaski Cove   • Maritime Heritage Center aka Aquarium   • Hidden Harbour   • Husky Boat Ramp aka Big Rock   • Husky alternate   • Willow Point   • Ken Forde Park   • Cape Mudge   • Oyster Bay |
Elk Bay -- 50° 16.488'N 125° 25.750'W
-best launch is north of campsite
-access to Okisollo Channel & Chained Islands
-campsite is busy in summer
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Browns Bay -- 50° 9.723'N 125° 22.506'W
-launch is sand with rocks
-fee for overnight parking is low
-facilities, store, camping
-restaurant is open in summer
-currents in Seymour Narrows can reach 16 knots!
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Menzies Bay A -- 50° 6.722'N 125° 22.416'W
-not an easy launch.
-there is room to park on the southwest side of the highway
-a barricaded dirt road drops off the highway just south of the bridge.
-take the left fork and follow a track through the woods.
-at 9' tide at Bloedel, kayaks must be carried through the creek (poor footing on isolated rocks) to launch (need 2 people to carry per kayak).
Menzies Bay B -- 50° 6.758'N 125° 22.325'W
-an easy launch but non trivial to get to.
-there is room to park on the southwest side of the highway
-a barricaded dirt road drops off the highway just south of the bridge.
-take the right fork and follow a track to a tiny campsite.
-you have to go through a mud bog so may only be suitable in late summer.
-campsite has a plastic bag hanging in a tree that is full of beer cans
  which is probably why the road was blocked.
Gowlland Harbour -- 50° 5.594'N 125° 15.709'W
-this small launch is at the north end of Gowlland Harbour
-a lot of driving to get here
-not much parking
-launch is gravel or rock
-expect currents
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April Pt marina -- 50° 3.709'N 125° 13.673'W
-park on the west side of April Pt Road
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Orange Pt -- 50° 4.324'N 125° 16.555'W
-lots of parking space
-a grassy trail down a hill (often slippery) goes from parking lot to beach
-launch is gravel with patches of sand
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Tyee Spit -- 50° 2.665'N 125° 15.170'W
-aka Dick Murphy park
-drinking water during summer
-facilities
-can launch on the estuary side or ocean side
-estuary launch on grass or gravel at high tide
-estuary launch on rocks or barnacles at low tide
-ocean launch is on gravel or small rocks
-beware of seaplanes
-there is a light at the north end of Tyee Spit that flashes white when seaplanes land or take off
-currents in Discovery Passage can reach 7 knots!
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Quathiaski Cove -- 50° 2.558'N 125° 12.922'W
-fee parking
-facilities
-launch from boat ramp
-currents in Discovery Passage can reach 7 knots!
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Maritime Heritage Center & Aquarium -- 50° 1.171'N 125° 14.184'W
-parking lot is busy on saturdays in summer (farmer's market)
-beach is off the south edge of the parking lot
-beach access may be hindered by logs
-the Aquarium is worth visiting
-currents in Discovery Passage can reach 7 knots!
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Hidden Harbour -- 50° 0.407'N 125° 13.989'W
-parking for 4 vehicles
-difficult launch/carry at low tides
-launch is okay at tide height of 7 feet
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Husky Boat Ramp aka Big Rock -- 49° 59.370'N 125° 13.564'W
NOT RECOMMENDED due to construction changes
-aka Big Rock, MacCalum Park
-busy with sport fishing boats.
-parking is dedicated to vehicles with boat trailers
-may have to park in overflow parking N of Husky
-good breakwater
-can no longer launch immediately south of the breakwater
-the only place to launch is from the dock
-facilities across the street at Husky gas station
-avoid rolling inside breakwater (oil, gas, fish guts)
-currents in Discovery Passage can reach 7 knots!
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Husky alternate -- 49° 59.352'N 125° 13.537'W
-the redesign has eliminated this site
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Willow Point -- 49° 58.325'N 125° 13.033'W
-sheltered from south winds
-low tides are best avoided
-small parking lot can be busy
-park is host to Transformations On The Shore in late June
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Ken Forde Park -- 49° 57.856'N 125° 12.502'W
-boat ramp is busy in summer, but usually blocked by logs in the winter
-boat ramp may be littered with fish carcasses in summer
-fishing boats cannot launch at tides below 8 feet
-gravel beach is also good for launching kayaks
-facilities
-beach cookouts in summer
-currents in Discovery Passage can reach 7 knots!
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Cape Mudge -- 49° 59.940'N 125° 11.781'W
-at the lighthouse
-launch is rocky
-limited parking
-currents in Discovery Passage can reach 7 knots!
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OysterBay -- 49° 53.758'N 125° 8.824'W
-gravel high on the beach
-a wide sand beach at low tide
-parking, facilities
-currents are small
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Discovery Passage has a few potential hazards, but I don't consider it overly hazardous.
Kayakers need to check the weather forecast and avoid south easterlies.
There is boat traffic but it is not bad.
Finally there is turbulent water in certain places at certain times.
Kayakers should be aware of the
Power Boat Rules of the Road
but equally important is the Rule of Max Tonnage
which tells us to get out of the path of anything larger than us.
One of the problems is that boaters may not see us.
They may not be expecting kayaks so even if the eye see us the brain does not register it.
Check out this video and Cognitive Issues in Head-up Displays
Another factor is that you can navigate a powerboat via gps & radar and never look out the windshield.
Also, in rough conditions, waves hitting the windshield make it difficult to see anything.
Before launch, you could check boat traffic via the APRS map
and while paddling, you could listen to channel 71 (VTS Comox Traffic) for "Cape Mudge" & "Steep Island" calls
further reading:
kayaks & boats
paddler etiquette
tips on avoiding collisions
the need for a signal light
Map of Hazards
  • seymour boils (ebb)   • seymour whirlpools (ebb)   • maud whirlpools (ebb)   • menzies whirlpools (flood)   • race pt boils (flood)   • race pt whirlpools (flood)   • walcan rip   • moving log booms from Menzies Bay to Gowlland Harbour   • May Island wreck   • whales   • Gowlland Island narrow passage - fast current   • april pt turbulence   • April Pt water taxi - boat traffic   • CR river outflow - fast current   • seaplanes - major hazard   • white flashing light when seaplanes take off & land   • Powell River Queen(ferry) - boat traffic   • tide rip south of Qcove   • yaculta shoal - boils   • freighters etc - boat traffic   • sport fishing boats - boat traffic   • cruise ships   • cape mudge rip   • fog   • wind & waves |
  • Surge Narrows - boat control, surfing, bracing, rolling   • Seymour Narrows - route finding, bracing   • Walcan tide rip - bracing   • Mouse Islets - flatwater rolling   • April Pt tide rip - bracing   • Campbell River Estuary - flatwater rolling   • McIvor Lake - flatwater rolling   • tide rip south of Quathiaski Cove - bracing   • Strathcona Gardens - pool rolling   • Cape Mudge tide rip - bracing   • Stories Beach - surfing during south easterlies   • Saratoga Beach - flatwater rolling   • Saratoga Beach - surfing during south easterlies |
SKGABC Water Classification Map |
Georgia Strait is class 2 Discovery Passage and Okisollo Channel are class 3 Seymour Narrows will be class 4 at high currents |
Here's a list of valuable skills:
Comox Valley Kayaks | Skils |
Roll Your Kayak
This is by far the best option. It puts you back upright in a few seconds, minimizing exposure to the water; it results in little or no water in the cockpit, since the spray skirt remains attached; it requires no extra gear to be deployed; and it doesn't require assistance from companions who might be having difficulty themselves.
- Complete Sea Kayak Touring, Jonathan Hanson
The Kayak Roll Part 1of 3
Dympna Hayes
common mistakes - Gordon Brown
how to - Buck Johnson
how to - greenland - Matt Gebhardt
fast roll - Surge Narrows
how to - Pawlata
Rolling - Common mistakes and how to improve them - Kayak Hipster
Re-enter & Roll
The Reenter and Roll is potentially the fastest solo reentry in this book. Where the Reenter and Roll really comes into its own, however, is in rough seas, because it skips the vulnerable part of both the Paddlefloat Recovery and the Scramble - the point at which you climb on top of your kayak and try to balance. - Sea Kayak Rescue, Schumann & Shriner
Sanders & Hoare
Dympna Hayes
Assisted Rescues
The first condition, of course, is that you have someone to assist you. Then, conditions must not be so bad that your companion or companions are fully involved in their own struggles to stay upright, or would put themselves in danger trying to reach you. Otherwise, an assisted reentry can be fast and easy, resulting in very little more exposure time than a reentry and roll. An added advantage is that your companion can continue to stabilize your boat while you fasten the spray skirt and pump out the cockpit. - Complete Sea Kayak Touring, Jonathan Hanson
X Rescue - Sanders & Hoare
Heel Hook - Gordon Brown
The Dump - Body Boat Blade
The Scoop - Body Boat Blade
Hand of God - Alder Creek
Back Deck Carry & Tow - Neptune Rangers
Contact Tow - Body Boat Blade
Cowboy Scramble
One of our personal favorites, the Scramble is among the fastest solo reentries in the book. It can be an excellent self-rescue in places like surf zones or rock gardens, where it may be difficult for a partner to come help you, or where you may not have time to rig a paddlefloat between waves. - Sea Kayak Rescue, Schumann & Shriner
East Coast Kayaking
B.A.S.K.
Ladder variation - Sanders & Hoare
Paddle Float Re-enter & Roll
To beef up your re-enter and roll, you can supplement the roll portion by affixing a paddle float to your paddle. By attaching a paddle float to your rolling blade, you'll get much more support for your roll. You'll also have a solid brace to use while pumping the water out of your kayak. - Sea Kayaking Rough Waters, Alex Matthews
Gordon Brown
Skagit Bay
rolling with a paddle float - Skaban Evasmata
Paddle Float Outrigger
The paddle float rescue has been described as an excellent way
for a novice to reenter a kayak in calm water.
- Complete Sea Kayak Touring, Jonathan Hanson
These days the Paddlefloat Self-Rescue is widely considered essential for sea kayakers. We'd even go so far to recommend that no paddler leave shore without it. ... Technique and practice are what make this rescue effective. The amount of practice and the attention to certain details will determine whether this rescue will work only in flat water or in a wide variety of rough-water sea conditions. - Sea Kayak Rescue, Schumann & Shriner
East Coast Kayaking
Gordon Brown
with deck lines - Steve Bennett
with stirrup - Daren B
use a Stirrup to get your torso out of the water
WCP
WCP
Radio for Help via VHF
VHF radios provide another powerful means of signaling for help, because they reach other boats in the area as well as the coastguard. You can even use a VHF radio to make a phone call through a marine operator - but perhaps most importantly, you can access marine weather forecasts easily. - Sea Kayaking Rough Waters, Alex Matthews
Adventure Kayak
Marine VHF around Campbell River
Satellite Signal via PLB or EPIRB
These devices are intended for life-threatening emergencies only. They incorporate three levels of integrated signal technology – GPS positioning, a 406 MHz signal (most transmit at 5 watts), and 121.5 MHz homing capability – the PLB’s will quickly and accurately relay your position to a worldwide network of search and rescue satellites financed by international governments. When rescue parties get close they can zero in on the 121.5 MHz homing signal. So, if your needs are strictly the most reliable emergency beacon available, PLB’s are the best choice. - Ocean River Sports
McMurdo Fastfind PLB
Satellite Messengers
Until recently, only professional adventurers owned satellite communication devices. Most casual backcountry enthusiasts just didn't have the budget, or the expertise, necessary to own an esoteric, expensive device that spat out weird numbers (Latitude, longitude? What?) on a hard-to-read LCD. If you regularly ventured off the cellular grid, you relied on maps, memory, and crossed fingers. All that has changed with a recent crop of more affordable—and much easier to use—satellite messengers.
Wired magazine
Garmin inReach Mini
If you don't mind some current, then your options expand ...
  • Orange Pt to Steep Island   • Tyee Spit to Steep Island   • Tyee Spit to April Point   • Tyee Spit to Quathiaski Cove   • Aquarium to north of Yaculta village   • Hidden Harbour to Yaculta Village   • Husky boat ramp to Cape Mudge   • Ken Forde park to Cape Mudge |
Tyee Spit to Gowlland Harbour during Slack | Gowlland Harbour to Tyee Spit during Slack |
Gowlland Harbour to Tyee Spit during Ebb | |
Tyee Spit to Gowlland Harbour during Ebb | using counter current along Orange Pt |
dotted lines indicate better path |
Tyee Spit to Gowlland Harbour during Flood | |
using counter current along Orange Pt | Gowlland Harbour to Tyee Spit during Flood |
Tyee Spit to Gowlland Harbour during Flood
using countercurrent along Gowlland Island |
Gowlland Harbour to Tyee Spit during Flood
using countercurrent along Gowlland Island |
The wise approach is to start with shorter trips in lower currents and then progress. A good first trip is Husky boat ramp to Gowlland Harbour.
Pick a day where the current at Orange Pt is 4 or 5 knots. Then go again when the current is 6 or 7 knots.
An exploratory trip to Yellow Island could be the next step. This gives you some idea of the currents near Race Pt without putting you in Seymour Narrows.
Trips through Seymour Narrows can launch at Tyee Spit, Husky boat ramp, or Ken Forde Park. Start with slow currents in the narrows and work your way up (see next section).
There are fewer options for paddling south with the flood and returning north with the ebb. The only launch points are Orange Pt and Browns Bay. Orange Pt to Cape Mudge is a good trip, but short.
Husky Boat Ramp to Gowlland Harbour
Lunch & turnaround spots are usually Browns Bay or Separation Head. It is possible to lunch further north during lower tidal exchanges, but you must always be aware of the possibility of south winds delaying your return to the narrows, causing you to kayak through the narrows at a higher current speed than you would like.
What do you need to kayak Seymour Narrows?
  • a day with the right currents
  • good weather
  • kayak, paddle, etc suitable for rough water
  • you should know the path to take
  • you should be comfortable in boils & small whirlpools
  • you should know how to brace & edge
  • you should be able to route find in moving water
  • you should have a solid roll
Your first trip to Seymour Narrows should be near slack current, perhaps entering at 3 knots ebb and exiting at 3 knots flood. From there you can work up.
If you arrive at Race Pt when the narrows current is too high, you can pull out and wait at various spots:
  • north of Walcan - sandy beach, mild currents
  • Race Pt NW side - pass close by Race Pt & take a hard left
  • Yellow Island - a detour but mild currents
  • Maud Island south - active currents, small rocky ledges
  • Nymphe Cove - exit main flow early to avoid entering the narrows proper
While in the narrows at higher currents you avoid the whirlpools by staying in the downstream V (for both ebb and flood).
Seymour Narrows is dangerous if you take the wrong path.
If a big whirlpool grabs your kayak, you will swim unless you can roll repeatedly (or you are very good at dynamic bracing when both ends of your kayak want to twist in different directions).
You may need to roll on your off side.
Swimming in big whirlpools is a bad idea as you could be sucked underwater and drown.‡
Your kayak is a huge pfd - stay in it! And stay away from the big whirlpools!
The following diagrams will help you seek the best path to avoid whirlpools, but it is always better to travel with someone who has kayaked the Narrows before.
At slack current, you can go anywhere you want, subject to other boat traffic.
But as the current increases, your line is constrained by boils and whirlpools. You want to follow the downstream V.
The following paths have been repeatedly field tested at 8 knots current.
They may or may not work at current speeds of 12 knots or more,
but at this time I cannot recommend kayaking through Seymour Narrows at current speeds in excess of 10 knots.
The highest current speeds I have gone through have been 10 knots (ebb & flood).
The limiting factor is that I don't know how much suction the whirlpools have.
Captain Rick Edwards on taking a tug & barge through the narrows:
“When I’m going south with the flood, our rule of thumb is that we will run with eight knots of tide. Depending on traffic and weather conditions I have run 14 knots. It is okay as long as you stay in the channel and out of the back eddies. If it’s dark or foggy and you can’t see the back eddies I wouldn’t try a 14-knotter, but ten knots, I don’t even think about it. It’s nothing. At 14 knots it’s really boiling, you don’t waste anytime.
Alan Haig-Brown
FLOOD PATH
Photo shows the downstream V during the flood. Also shows the turbulence downstream of Ripple Rock.
FLOOD PATH
For more information on kayaking Seymour Narrows, see Downhill Both Ways
‡ I wear a Kokatat SeaO2 PFD, which provides 22 pounds of flotation when inflated.
Tyee Pool Webcam